<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Soul Growth &#187; NDE</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blog.soulgrowth.com/tag/nde/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blog.soulgrowth.com</link>
	<description>a blog about my thoughts and opinions</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2023 07:35:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en-US</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Science and religion are at opposite ends of the spectrum &#8230; so where does the truth sit in this equation?</title>
		<link>http://blog.soulgrowth.com/2013/10/science-and-religion-are-at-opposite-ends-of-the-spectrum/</link>
		<comments>http://blog.soulgrowth.com/2013/10/science-and-religion-are-at-opposite-ends-of-the-spectrum/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[General Discussion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[astrology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NDE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[OBE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[science]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.soulgrowth.com.au/?p=248</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[EDIT #1 ... 21.11.2013] Perhaps I was contacting the wrong type of scientists &#8230; In the last week, I have reached out to acouple of scientists + researchers that are knowledgeable in the realm of near-death experiences, and for the first &#8230; <a href="http://blog.soulgrowth.com/2013/10/science-and-religion-are-at-opposite-ends-of-the-spectrum/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="width: 90%; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid; border-radius: 25px; padding: 5px 20px;"><strong>[EDIT #1 ... 21.11.2013]</strong><br />
Perhaps I was contacting the wrong type of scientists &#8230;<br />
In the last week, I have reached out to acouple of scientists + researchers that are knowledgeable in the realm of near-death experiences, and for the first time ever I have gotten a reply. That&#8217;s great.<br />
I&#8217;m starting to believe in science again, I just wish other scientists would also venture outside of what they have learned and understand to be true about the universe. Saying that, I&#8217;m guessing they are more focused on my Out-Of-Body experiences than that of astrology/psychics/etc &#8230; yet I feel that the two subjects are somehow entwined with each other.<br />
I would still like to put Astrology to the test (while I still can) &#8230; so if a scientist and myself can come up with a means of testing things out under proper scrutiny, putting theories into practice &#8230; then I&#8217;m all ears.</div>
<hr />
<p>In a basic nutshell &#8230;<br />
Science Perspective :</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 20px; margin-top: -1.5em; margin-bottom: -1em; width: 90%;"><p>Science understands that there is an unseen/largely-unknown energy. This is called &#8216;Dark Matter&#8217; and makes up roughly 84.5% of the universe. Recently, science has discovered the Higgs-Boson particle (or &#8216;God particle&#8217;) &#8211; which is understood to be central to the big bang and the creation of all life.</p></blockquote>
<p>Religious Perspective :</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 20px; margin-top: -1.5em; margin-bottom: -1em; width: 90%;"><p>A generalised view across all religions, suggests that there is a &#8216;god&#8217; that is ever present, exists within all of life, all matter, and the whole universe. This is also where I have come to find comfort in the philosophy of panpsychism &#8230; &#8216;pan&#8217; meaning existing throughout everything.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are the two paths of thought related? Who knows!</p>
<p>Yet &#8211; people within both of these groups rarely seek to discover things that exist outside of what they know. They restrict themselves to the known and don&#8217;t wish to hear about anything that contradicts their preconceived notions as to what reality could possibly be.</p>
<p>At this point I&#8217;d like to divert your attention to a blog article &#8211; <a href="http://www.transformationmag.com/online/2013/10/seeing-the-world-with-more-than-two-eyes/" target="_blank">Seeing the world with more than two eyes</a> which discusses Science VS Religion. Jo Mooy has studied spiritual traditions for over 40 years, and can certainly elaborate more on the topic than I ever would be able to do.</p>
<hr />
<p>Since the start of 2013, I have sought to try to validate some happenings in my life &#8230; for the most part, to try to prove to myself that these things are truly happening in my life.<br />
The only places I have found solace are &#8216;New-Age/Spiritual&#8217; stores + an esoteric studies group. Not only have they believed my stories, but some revered in what I said &#8211; as someone from the group said to me, to have such an experience is profound, although not completely unheard of.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m science minded, I have sought out to possibly try to run a test/experiment as to this phenomena that was happening (and perhaps in doing so, we could add some insight as to life&#8217;s mysteries). Yet &#8211; every scientist that I&#8217;ve emailed (as well as highlighting various aspects within my website) &#8230; <strong>not a single person has replied</strong> &#8230; One scientist (who is well known within Australia + he recently wrote an article about &#8216;is free-will an illusion?&#8217; whereby he discussed that scientists can predict what our actions will be upto 4 seconds before we consciously make a choice) &#8211; I have emailed twice. <strong>Still no reply</strong>.<br />
As Jonathan Cainer&#8217;s &#8220;thought for the day&#8221; said last week &#8230; Scientists not only disregard these happenings, but tend to scorn at Astrology as a whole &#8230; that certainly seems true from all the dead ends i&#8217;ve reached.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disheartening, as I am fairly certain that &#8216;once I am with the one that I love so dearly&#8217; (as my horoscope put it in 2010), I understand that &#8211; I will no longer have the assistance of any horoscope that I turn to, or be able to see into other people&#8217;s &#8220;soul mind&#8221; &#8230; as in, it&#8217;s a limited gift from the universe.<br />
So I hope that you, the reader &#8211; understands why I have tried to reach out and put things to a test now rather than later &#8230; as later will be too late, and then we won&#8217;t be able to put things under proper scrutiny.</p>
<p>I have then contacted some people that hold Christian beliefs.<br />
The only person in this field that I have managed to speak to essentially said that &#8230;<br />
&#8220;I have been practicing magic. The devil is real and not to be messed with. I should never use an ouija board to contact other spirits/souls. I will go to hell if I do. He then said that I should read the bible if I wanted help and suggested that I attend church&#8221;.<br />
<strong>I would just like to stress &#8211; I&#8217;ve never been part of a seance (and only ever seen an ouija board once in my life), nor have I even considered magic (dark arts, etc), nor gone down that road &#8230; I am an average, everyday person</strong> &#8211; yet I have a &#8216;gift&#8217; (that I believe has been bestowed upon myself by the spiritual realm).</p>
<p>Part of Christianity&#8217;s fundamental teachings, is that &#8216;<strong>To be allowed into heaven, you must accept Jesus Christ as your saviour</strong>&#8216; &#8230; yet, in the last few decades, there has been more and more people with non-Christian beliefs having experiences of a spiritual/divine nature as well as &#8216;going into heaven&#8217; (or experiencing &#8216;heaven&#8217;) &#8230; myself included.</p>
<p>So could Christianity have made an error of judgement? And perhaps, the above statement (and bible verses) is more borne out of fear and control. Does the spiritual realm infact know no boundaries, and is extended into every religion, every person, all of life &#8211; no matter what !!!<br />
This is where Esotericism has a better understanding &#8230; which basically says, that EACH AND EVERYONE of us are ALWAYS connected to the spiritual/divine &#8211; no matter at what point we are on our individual journey. We are working our way up &#8216;the tree of life&#8217;, a process of gradual steps (which can sometimes be a step backwards).</p>
<hr />
<p>So you can certainly see the polar views between Science and Faith, and neither seems willing to validate my experiences. So where does that leave me?</p>
<p>Well, like others (yes, I am certainly not alone) &#8230; it has meant going down a long path of self-discovery, taking myself away from what my previous life was &#8230; and practically devoting my life to shedding light on these mysteries. A similar comparison to myself is Eben Alexander, who wrote the book &#8216;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Proof-Heaven-Neurosurgeons-Journey-Afterlife/dp/1451695195">Proof Of Heaven &#8211; a neurosurgeon&#8217;s journey into the afterlife</a>&#8216;.</p>
<p>Today, I read a blog post on CNN.com &#8211; regarding how traditional religion/church tends to shy away from this topic &#8230; <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/19/proofs-of-heaven-popular-but-not-with-the-church/">http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/19/proofs-of-heaven-popular-but-not-with-the-church/</a> &#8230; and the post certainly rang true to my experiences.</p>
<hr />
<p>After the suggestion from this Christian person I mentioned above, I did turn to the bible &#8230; but in doing so, I found grave inconsistancies. I&#8217;m guessing that this is to do with early christianity (when the bible was written) and Christianity in it&#8217;s current form.</p>
<p style="margin-top: -1.5em; padding-left: 15px;">1.) Multiple heavens &#8211; early Christianity did believe in this &#8230; yet current Christianity only believes in the one (singular) heaven.<br />
2.) Re-Incarnation &#8211; again, this seemed to exist in early Christianity - yet the orthodox church tried to put a stop to these <a href="http://www.gnosis.org/whatisgnostic.htm">Christian Gnostics</a> and the very existance of these teachings.</p>
<p>Regarding point #1<br />
One of the main verses in the bible regarding multiple heavens is 2 Corinthians 12:2.<br />
And the current Christian understanding is that, while there is only 1 singular heaven (instead of different levels of heaven), <span style="text-decoration: underline;">there are certainly different levels of reward in heaven</span>.<br />
Are these two infact one and the same &#8230; two ideas that have merged over time?</p>
<p>Regarding point #2<br />
Please refer to <a href="http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06.html" target="_blank">Reincarnation and the Early Christians</a> for greater detail.</p>
<p>i.) At what point did Christianity stop believing in more than one heaven????<br />
ii.) When did Christianity change it&#8217;s beliefs?<br />
Some say that this happened at the Second Council of Constantinople in 533AD.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done abit of searching online and can find no clear point where things changed (other than some hearsay regarding 533AD) &#8230; yet there seems to clearly be a strong deviation from current Christianity, and that of when the bible was written &#8211; when did that conjecture happen? why the differences? and why such little documentation on the changes that were made?<br />
&#8230; that is still a mystery.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://blog.soulgrowth.com/2013/10/science-and-religion-are-at-opposite-ends-of-the-spectrum/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
